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1. AmbrociousXP
   Member

   In each of our profiles we should have an option that allows us to automatically share our keys with others anonymously. If your key is shared anonymously, you will not appear in the friends list on OneSwarm but you will rather connect to other anonymous computers as well. Any info on each connection is not kept on anyone's computer.

   Friends already shared will not be affected by this; an auto shut off for the auto key sharing will terminate your anonymous connections via an option in your OneSwarm program settings. You will not be ale to reconnect to the auto key sharing network until you restart OneSwarm. By default, the auto key sharing is not on until you tick it on during any of your sessions via OneSwarm.

   Any other things along this line sound good? Anything need changed in this idea? I know it's a great idea but every great idea needs a proper idea format. I am welcome for further suggestions on this idea as far as making it better.

   Posted 4 years ago #

2. nikomo
   Member

   I completely agree with this.

   Posted 4 years ago #

3. AmbrociousXP
   Member

   I came to the conclusion that after adding close to about 30 friends...it's just not worth keeping track of all those people on the list UNLESS I am their actual friends or relative. The adding of countless friends although not bad at all, has created clutter...lots and lots of clutter. I know that lots of people want this as an option, even though this was built to be a friend 2 friend program, the demand is greatly raised by the competition of other P2P programs that are already linked to millions of users just waiting to get a nice download at super fast speeds.

   If this idea ever gets implemented, it will help eliminate a lot of unneeded friend requests minus the requests of friends for certain direct things. Search categories might be another thing added into the next pack.

   Posted 4 years ago #

4. identityunknown
   Member

   It would be perfekt!

   Posted 4 years ago #

5. alextepes
   Member

   A way to create categories too would be nice, Like Anime, Action, Cartoons, Documentaries you get the picture, however a filter model should be implemented where a friend can choose which categories he wants to see from his friends, thus also more options to search in.
   Friends would also share categories, so if two friends use the category "Anime" all their files would be listed inside for both parties in that category.

   Which would mean Category control ;P
   and control over what would appear inside.

   Posted 4 years ago #

6. kalkyl
   Member

   It would be perfect!!

   Posted 4 years ago #

7. Toshan
   Member

   Sounds great! Categories would be nice too.

   Posted 4 years ago #

8. lsshare
   Member

   Yes some sort of auto ad or peer exchange is necessary. I do not want to ad 500 000 - 5 000 000 users manuay.

   -

   Sins each file seam to be hashed, only one person would need to categorize a file, so this would probably work.

   Posted 4 years ago #

9. ahiramazu
   Member

   I don't think you're supposed to even add 5.000 as friends and certainly not 500.000 if the network grows to that size.

   Please can an administrator clarify this?

   Say the network has a total of 5.000 nodes what would be an optimal number of (limited) friends each node should have for the network to perform as fast as possible? Should a node with slow Internet connection have few friends and a node with an extremely fast connection have many many friends? Or does it all balance out automatically so everyone should add ass many limited friends as they have processing power to handle?

   Posted 4 years ago #

10. piatek
    Administrator

    Let me respond quickly to two things here. First, OneSwarm will automatically route data through intermediaries that have excess capacity and route around intermediaries that are overwhelmed. Second, I agree automatic import of multiple manual keys would be useful, and it's something we're working on for inclusion in an upcoming patch.

    Posted 4 years ago #

11. lsshare
    Member

    ok, you might not need enormous amount of friends directly connected to your self, but I would like to have at least a few hundred friends so I always have access to a large network of peers (if some is off-line) so I always can find a large amount of data.

    "OneSwarm will automatically route data through intermediaries that have excess capacity and route around intermediaries that are overwhelmed."

    Here is a good reason to have many fiends. Most people have slow upstream. For anyone to be ably to use there downstream fully you need a lot of friends. Many dsl users might only have 30KBs upp. For me to be able to use my 12-14Mbit down I will need a lot of friends.

    Can I have multiple profiles? I would like to create a separate network where everyone has at least 5-10Mbit upstream.

    Posted 4 years ago #

12. violo
    Member

    add me i will share all my files

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    Posted 4 years ago #

13. alexc
    Member

    I strongly agree that this is a good idea.

    Posted 4 years ago #

14. X
    Member

    Sounds great.

    Posted 4 years ago #

15. fjo1
    Member

    It sounds really Great, it's Fully needed for this to go allway

    Posted 4 years ago #

16. AmbrociousXP
    Member

    It's good to hear that it's gonna be added but like I said, there either needs to be two separate versions with one completely open to everyone and the other specifically for friends only or it could be all meshed into one with the auto key share turned off by default. uTorrent has a nifty little update thing that helps block out IP's belonging to organizations that are not so trusted but this is separate from the uTorrent installation. If a feature such as IP filtering or blocking could be included in the next version of OneSwarm or if it could be an option to get it automatically upon your request (inside the programs advanced feature) this would help out in anonymity.

    Posted 4 years ago #

17. devnulltorrent
    Member

    I'm going to go out on a bit of limb here, but I don't agree with auto shared keys, mostly because I do not necessarily trust some friends judgement about who to peer with. The problem starts to snowball as you make it easier to to use.

    Seriously, if you do not have a basic handle on what a certificate or key is in relation to privacy and security by now, you shouldn't be using it.

    Auto blacklists are by nature, bad and unreliable. You have no idea who adds what to the list, or why it was added. Look at rbl's used for email as an example or some of the private bgp peerings for ddos/twit control. The idea is nothing new, the problem is as you make it easier, you also make it harder in the end for everyone.

    Can you imagine if regional ISP's all got together and shared their lists over BGP? Instant censorship. Insert knee-jerk legislation requiring participation (in the name of terrorism or pr0n of course), and you have a nightmare. -- There is an advantage to be had with human intervention.

    Posted 4 years ago #

18. AmbrociousXP
    Member

    You make a good point about the blacklists and everything but even still, the auto key sharing function should be available for those who don't worry so much. I like to think of it this way: 10 people commit a crime together...all ten get busted and sent to jail. 1 million people commit a crime together...a new world is born.

    This seems like a twisted view but think how true it is. Even though I do not consider P2P or F2F a crime, there are those that do, and the way to stop their hatred is for more and more of the world to to share. This is sad really but it's true.

    Posted 4 years ago #

19. hazmatt
    Member

    Wow. That has got to be one of the worst arguments I've ever seen. Your logic is astoundingly bad.

    Posted 4 years ago #

20. AmbrociousXP
    Member

    My logic isn't perfect. Who's is?

    Posted 4 years ago #

21. dmanx_
    Member

    I think automated keys are exactly what this program needs to grow!!!!!!

    Posted 4 years ago #

22. huldu
    Member

    My key.

    I agree there needs to be some sort of automated function for adding friends and increasing the size of your "friend" network.

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    Posted 4 years ago #

23. kasumi
    Member

    I completely agree with Auto Share Key function it will be easier to build the service larger in no time :P

    Posted 4 years ago #

24. ctron
    Member

    make a auto key import from a list, and let people create 2. part applications to share keylist.

    Posted 4 years ago #

25. klas
    Member

    What about "groups"? Would be a lot easier.

    Posted 4 years ago #

26. piatek
    Administrator

    We're working on making it significantly easier to import a large number of friends using keys at once. Aside from this, we're mostly focused on fixing bugs for the next release, and we won't be working on major new features until we improve the robustness of the existing ones. That said, we're always happy to hear about the features that users want. (These are always the most likely to be implemented 8))

    Posted 4 years ago #

27. fango
    Member

    Sounds great :)

    anyways.. add me :D

    NICK: Andreas

    KEY:

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    Delar lite alltmöjligt ;)

    ADDA MIG, SKICKA DIN KEY OCHSÅ!

    Posted 4 years ago #

28. bico
    Member

    In the meantime, until some kind of built in functionality to bulk import friends is implemented, if you want to bulk import friends, take a look at

    mkosf2f_friends!

    Enjoy!

    /bico

    Posted 4 years ago #

29. ksork
    Member

    Hi

    I agree with autoimport/connetc feature. The best would be if just one key is needed when I download/start Oneswarm. It will then go to my single connection and ask for additional connections (that have agreed to be "anonymus public/limited"), and the those connections connections....

    I will after a while be connected to (or be aware of) all oneswarm users that have the proposed "auto share" feature enabled. I would like to see the agency/nation that can close down that network :-) And nobody knows if they have the file, or if the file just is routed trough them.

    BR / K.Sork

    Posted 4 years ago #

30. Dodo
    Member

    Sounds great and agree with you completly!

    Nickname: Dodo

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    Posted 4 years ago #

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